Starlog Magazine #331 January 2005

 

Interview with David Hewlett

By Rhonda Krafchin


 

 

Don’t have a conversation with actor David Hewlett on an empty stomach. You’ll need the energy. You might even want to warm up with some creative genre-word association just so you can keep up, because the experience is not unlike those raucous meetings that take place in the sparkly corners of hotel bars during four day media conventions. It’s exhausting and exhilarating filled with riffs and sidebars that dance over the landscape of science fictions best and worst.

 

“My mother says my first television experience was hiding behind the sofa watching Jon Pertwee’s Dr Who”, recalls Hewlett with affection, “I loved that show, it was just everything to me. I truly believed that I somehow had to become Dr Who”. With the quest for Gallifrey in his young mind, Hewlett took great interest in the sciences all through school and had his parents dreaming big. Then – in what he calls “a tragic turn of events” – Hewlett realised that he could never be a Time Lord. But he could pretend to be one.

 

Self-effacing, honest, bounding with enthusiasm and possessed of a lightening-fast tongue, Hewlett takes a conversational stroll and turns it into an impromptu slip-and-slide. His infectious, throaty laugh makes you feel like and old friend, eager to jump aboard the party bus. And yet…this actor portrays one of SF’s most disagreeable, sarcastic and arrogant people. Dr Rodney McKay of Stargate Atlantis.

 

“How could you not love McKay?” queries Hewlett incredulously. “Or how could you not love to hate McKay? People come up to me and say ‘can you sign this? I hate you,’ or ‘You’re a bad actor because you didn’t get along with those kids.” The latter is a reference to the episode ‘Childhoods End’ in which McKay must contend – not too successfully – with the adorable waifs.

 

All right, so the guy may be a curmudgeon, but there are reasons all those fans are asking for autographs. “I think there’s a bit of him in everybody,” says Hewlett. “The know-it-all, the McKay part of you, is the part that’s dying to get your hand up first in class to answer a question. He always has an answer, not necessarily the right answer, but he always has an answer for everything. I think we would all

like to have that ability. I know I would.” Not missing an opportunity to poke fun at himself, Hewlett adds, “I can handle the obnoxious part on my own, but the smart…Thank God they have somebody to write for me.”

 

Making his debut in the 7th season of Stargate SG-1, McKay first banged intellects with then-Major Samantha Carter (Amanda Tapping) in ’48 Hours’ and whether fans were appalled or curiously intrigued they wouldn’t soon forget the man who had written of SG-1 favourite Teal’c as dead and continually  dismissed Carter’s technological feats of heroism. “Samantha doesn’t necessarily bring out the best in McKay,” Hewlett notes. “Oh yes, McKay definitely misses his old sparring partner and he has mentioned her repeatedly in the second half of the season. But don’t think her absence means McKay has gone soft. I’ve a whole bunch of new [sparring partners] now, you see. In a way, everyone’s relationship with McKay is that of a failing marriage. It’s just this snappy back-and-forth. For some reason, people seem to let loose on him – probably because they think they can.”

 

Hewlett attributes McKay’s witty retorts to the writers, particularly Brad Wright and Robert Cooper, whom he sees more and more in McKay. But the delivery, the body language, is all Hewlett. “I’ve always spoken very quickly and when I get nervous I talk even faster,” he says, “I figure if I say it fast enough people won’t lose interest, I can make 50 jokes in the time that most people tell one joke, so one of them has to be funny! It’s like a war of attrition. I’m also the eldest and only son in a family with 5 younger sisters, who are a million times funnier than I am. I had a very strict upbringing, so the only way I got away with things was if I did it with humour. Even then, I generally didn’t. And it’s also an attention thing – horrible, wretched actors and their endless demands for attention. In high school you’re either a bully, a jock or a nerd and I somehow tried to jump between camps by using humour. Its amazing how you can blend in with that”.

 

It wasn’t just the funny side of Hewlett that made friends back in his school days. After performing for several years at an all boy’s high school – mostly in women’s roles and “staggering around in my mothers heels” – he was asked by another student if he would act in a home movie. “I’m not sure who was the bigger nerd,” he recalls of his friend Vincenzo Natali, who went on to create the cult film Cube, which featured Hewlett. “We started making these films, year after year. Summer vacations were spent shooting. We had a blast. The crazy thing is they were actually more professional than jobs I did later. They were run better and incredibly organized.

 

“At age 14 we would devise these detailed call sheets and Vincenzo would think up these amazing shots and how to make them work. The two of us just hit it off. We’ve literally worked together ever since [including on Natalis genre films Cypher and Nothing]. He’s a great guy and another SF nerd. We were invited to festivals during the Cube years and had so much fun meeting comic book artists and talking to people who made little films. It’s astounding the access you suddenly get to that world because of a film like Cube – and just how proud you can be of it.”

 

Outside of Stargate Atlantis, Hewlett has done quite a number of genre B-movies, including Scanners 2, Boa vs. Python and the cult film Pin. Calling it “the Bruce Campbell approach to an acting career”, Hewlett says he finds the good in all his projects and confesses even the horrible ones are guilty pleasures. “And they get to take you to places. Art, location, money. I say as long as you’ve got one of them you’re fine”.

 

Genre work is not all that Hewlett is about. He has earned Gemini nominations (the equivalent of an Emmy nod) for the Canadian

series Traders, and appeared in grade-A television series like ER and Without a Trace. There’s an art to playing someone as abrasive

as McKay without having viewers turn of the TV. Hewlett’s co-stars have praised his work and its attribute to his performance that McKay was brought back after being exiled to Russia in the SG-1 episode ‘Redemption’.

 

“The danger with a character like McKay,” says Hewlett “is turning him into comic relief. If there’s no edge to the character, if he’s just

there to cause trouble he’ll become tedious for people and certainly for myself. He’s not a jerk all the time. That’s one part of his personality. That’s the strength of the Stargate franchise, the Stargate universe – these complex characters. It’s the nature of knowing someone [over time]. When you first meet people its black and white. Your first sense of McKay is ‘Oh, this is an obnoxious, misogynistic jerk’. But if you get stuck in an elevator with someone you’re going to see other sides of them. [The Stargate characters] get to prove themselves, make fools of themselves, make mistakes and correct them. McKay goes through so much in the show. It’s not so much that he softens; you’re just seeing the other sides of him. No one can be that obnoxious all the time. There’s more than the arrogant astrophysicist in there.”

 

To see how different things might have been without the surly personality of McKay, one only has to watch Atlantis’ first episode. ‘Rising’ was originally written with another scientific expert on the team, Benjamin Ingram, who was in the script until the last week before production. “Ingram was going to be an African-American, a brilliant scientist,” says Hewlett. “That was the idea. I don’t know what exactly changed. There wasn’t much rewriting when I came in to do the pilot, so he’s a very subdued McKay. It’s like he’s biding his time. He’s checking things out, seeing what’s going on, definitely McKay on his best behaviour. Generally, when you’re bouncing

between galaxies like that, you’re bound to have an off day.”

 

When McKay has his A-game going, however, the dialogue sparkles. “The humour comes out of McKay knowing stuff that other people don’t.” says Hewlett, “or assuming he knows stuff that other people don’t. But the Atlantis team are all intelligent people, so that’s always a surprise to McKay. That’s where much of the banter comes from. It’s this wonderful sort of dysfunctional family. The other characters are actually saying McKay lines before McKay can say them. They’re jumping in with things before I get a chance to utter them, which is great. In the pilot everyone is banging against each other, not getting along and trying to get through this thing. As the episodes progress, you see how they learnt to interact. We’re doing it ourselves as actors too”.

 

“I think McKay now sees the Atlantis crew as a bit of a family. He lets down his guard at moments, but he hasn’t really made friends

with anybody yet. The closest he got was with Carter talking about his past. There are moments with other people but you don’t get that same kind of wanting to share. My sense is that, McKay feels that Carter is an equal and that’s something McKay is looking for in male and female company. He’s also very uptight. [McKay has a set idea] of the way things should be: either they’re done his way or the wrong way. That hobbles his ability to have true friendships. But its beginning to happen. There’s a begrudging kind of friendship with Sheppard. Frankly I wouldn’t want McKay to have a friend. What, he’s going to be nice to them? There’s some dull science fiction!”

 

McKay does have his moments of compassion though, such as when Lieutenant Ford (Rainbow Sun Francks) and Teyla (Rachel Luttrell) were left behind after a Wraith attack (‘Suspicion’). Though those occasions are few and far between, the snarky remarks and his working relationships are nowhere near as fiery as that with Carter. And Hewlett suspects that McKay and Dr Elizabeth Weir (Torri Higginson), the commander of Atlantis, have a past.

 

“I definitely got that sense in the beginning,” he says, “She picked him to come on this mission, so they had obviously worked together before. There’s some history there. I think he gets away with stuff – stuff that he wouldn’t get away with if they didn’t [know each other]. I don’t mean they have a romantic past. Also, McKay treats Weir differently than other women. There’s a respect, and that’s exactly the same with Carter. I don’t think McKay expects people not to [see through his bull]. If he’s called on something and he’s wrong its like

‘OK, there you go. You’re right and I’m wrong…But I’m right about this’”.

 

Hewlett insists that is character is still the same love him hate him curmudgeon from Stargate SG-1. Scathing, sharp commentary

aside, McKay is human and with all that journeying to unknown places, meeting of monsters and wrong thinking humans, there’s a

side of McKay that can be scared to death.

 

“He’s like anybody,” Hewlett declares. “There are moments of cowardice and moments he jumps into hero mode. You’ll laugh at this analogy, but he’s a bit like Neo in The Matrix. Neo is this nerd who suddenly discovers that he has to save the universe. Well, McKay,

in a way sees himself like that. He’s the chosen scientist who’s going to have to fix all this stuff. It’s his time in the sun.” And there are moments when McKay shines – like when he walks into a deadly black alien cloud to save Atlantis – and many occasions where he

has worked under duress or threat to successfully solve some technological problem.

 

“The fun of playing a character like McKay,” says Hewlett, “is choosing when to let his guard down. Even if it’s just for a sentence, a word or a scene. That’s what makes characters complex. We may be on a quest to save the galaxy, but it’s only because we screwed it up in the first place. That makes the show very interesting and somewhat topical. The world as it is right now – there’s so much conflict and so many conflicting views. Atlantis is a little microcosm of our world, so if we actually did have the ability to travel to other galaxies, wouldn’t we bring that strife and pettiness to other places as well?”

 

“McKay has no diplomatic skills whatsoever and to bring that to other planets is rather amusing and also a great source of tension for everybody else. God forbid McKay says the wrong thing to the wrong people as he has done. I mean, McKay teaches people how to make atomic bombs [in Underground] just so he can tell everybody he knows how. That fish-out-of-water element always works well, especially in SF. McKay should be behind a computer or at a University preaching this stuff rather than out there doing it. It’s almost a reluctant-hero thing. That’s an interesting idea for [the writers] to explore and certainly for me.”

 

Dramatic episodes, character stories and two-part action-adventure arcs are all Hewlett favourites. And he loves the steady stream of McKay-isms, written with an intelligence that comes through in the humour and makes the role fun to play. “Doctor Who was the same way,” he points out. “He always had those great snappy comebacks. He was always a little grumpy; certainly Jon Pertwee was. [William Hartnell’s Doctor] was a crotchety old man, in the best possible way. I’ve always felt that Stargate has the same appeal. It’s about the characters, but there’s this great ability of being able to step through, in our case, the Stargate, and, in Dr Who’s case, the TARDIS, and get to other worlds and explore different things.

 

“There’s a whole world of science fiction that, when you’re not a fan, you’re just completely unaware of,” Hewlett adds. “I’m lucky enough to have both embraced and been embraced by SF. It’s still my favourite genre. I’m a shameless fan.”

 

And so it goes, with Hewlett waxing nostalgic and proud to be the face of a new and nerdy kind of hero, Rodney McKay. For a guy who wasn’t even supposed to be going to the Pegasus Galaxy – let alone on every Atlantis away-mission – McKay has certainly been getting a whole lot of gate-travel time and David Hewlett thinks he knows why. “My hunch is that Dr Weir probably is very happy to be rid of him. I wouldn’t want to be stuck in that damn control room with McKay going ‘I told you so’ the entire time!”